Metaviews 163. 1999/12/11. Approximately 1950 words.Below are two responses to Metaviews 157 in which my Swarthmore
student Ben Geller offered a defense of sociobiology. Dan Berger
writes from Bluffton College in Ohio to offer examples from chemistry
of non-reducible processes. Berger criticizes Geller's naïve
"ontological reductionism."
Similarly, George Ellis writes from the University of Cape Town in
South Africa to criticize Geller's reductionistic faith that
sociobiology can explain the life of Mohandes Gandhi and Martin
Luther King, Jr. Ellis writes:
"...it is astonishing that anyone can have the confidence to so
naively dismiss the lives and works of some of the greatest men who
have lived this century. It is quite clear that Ben Geller has not
undertaken any serious moral agonising himself, but he should at
least read a book like `Martin Luther King Jr: The Making of a Mind',
by Ansbro, before presuming to make this kind of judgement on the
motivation underlying King's life."
We should not be too harsh on my young student at Swarthmore,
remembering that the field sociobiology is filled with distinguished
scientists who are making similarly grand claims about explaining
away morality, meaning and purpose within an evolutionary biological
paradigm.
-- Billy Grassie
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From: "Dan Berger" <bergerd@bluffton.edu>
Subject: RE: [METAVIEWS] Metaviews 157: Rolston Redux: In Defense
ofSociobiology
Ben Geller's essay assumes that epistemological reduction of biology
and chemistry to physics, at least in principle, is true, and that
ontological reduction follows.
I will begin with definitions:
"Epistemological reduction" is the explanation of "higher" processes
in terms of "lower," as when the ideal gas law is explained in terms
of molecular kinematics, or the periodic table in terms of atomic
structure. Epistemological reduction can usually be proved or
disproved within the realm of empirical evidence, that is to say,
within science.
Incidentally, the former example is problematic; see G.K. Vemulapalli
and H. Byerly, "Remnants of Reductionism," Foundations of Chemistry,
1(1), 17-14 (1999). The latter example is simply wrong; see E.R.
Scerri, "The Periodic Table and the Electron," American Scientist,
85(6) (November--December 1997). Of this, more anon.
"Ontological reduction" is a more metaphysical position, holding that
all events are ultimately caused by the interactions (which may be
random) of the smallest - "most fundamental" - known entities. Proof
or disproof of ontological reduction seems (to me) similar to proof
or disproof of the existence of God.
Ben Geller's essay assumes that epistemological reduction of biology
and chemistry to physics, at least in principle, is true, and that
ontological reduction follows. HOWEVER...
There is a consensus emerging in the philosophy of chemistry that
chemistry (to say nothing of biology) is NOT epistemologically
reducible to physics. The question of ontological reduction is
another matter; proponents of "the [epistemological] autonomy of
chemistry" often remain convinced of ontological reductionism (all
three writers cited above are examples). There is a good deal of
recent commentary about how philosophers of science have taken the
epistemological reduction of the "special sciences" to physics on
faith - with "faith," of course, being considered pejorative.
The primary evidence for the non-reducibility of chemistry to physics
is the fact that few if any fruitful chemical concepts can be reduced
to physical ones. Some of the most fruitful chemical concepts (for
example atomic and molecular orbitals, and chemical bonds) have been
shown to be nonsense at the level of quantum physics! There is an
ongoing project among chemists and philosophers of chemistry to prove
what chemists have known for decades, that these concepts are NOT
nonsense at the level of chemistry. Chemists on one hand have assumed
that their proven concepts reduce to physics because, after all,
epistemological reduction is true, isn't it? On the other, there has
been resistance to "chemical common sense" on the part of
philosophers of science because of their commitment to
epistemological reduction and the fact that it is easily shown that
chemical concepts (and in this one must include solid-state physical
ideas such as band-gap theory) are physical nonsense.
Not only is chemistry not reducible to physics, but biology is not
reducible to chemistry, perhaps not even in an ontological sense. I
believe Michael Polanyi (himself a physical chemist) pointed this out
in Science in the early '60s. He noted that, were biology
predetermined - or even fully explainable - by chemistry, the
wonderful variability of the genetic code would be impossible. Only
complete interchangeability of nucleotides allows DNA to code for so
many different proteins. If a particular nucleotide sequence or
sequences were more stable thermodynamically (hence chemically), all
DNA strands would contain that/those sequence(s); DNA strands which
did not would sooner or later be converted into strands that did.
Geller's reasoning, that epistemological reduction implies
ontological reduction, fails because of the failure of
epistemological reduction. On the other hand, some of the very
philosophers who have documented the failure of epistemological
reduction stoutly maintain the independent truth of ontological
reduction. Whether they are correct remains to be established; one
might make a comment or two about taking *ontological* reduction on
faith...
A few recent references in the philosophy of chemistry:
J. Schummer, "The Chemical Core of Chemistry I: A Conceptual
Approach" HYLE 4, 129-162 (1999). The full text of HYLE is available
online at http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~philosophie/hyle.html,
starting with volume 3.
Synthese 111(3) (1997) is a special issue devoted to the philosophy
of chemistry.
Foundations of Chemistry is a new journal (1999) devoted to the
history and philosophy of chemistry. The first issue contains
articles such as Peter H. Plesch, "On the Distinctness of Chemistry";
G. Krishna Vemulapalli and Henry Byerly, "Remnants of Reductionism";
Lee McIntyre, "The Emergence of the Philosophy of Chemistry"; and
Robert J. Good, "Why are Chemists 'Turned Off' by Philosophy of
Science?"
Daniel J. Berger |PH 419-358-3379
Assoc Prof of Chemistry|FX 419-358-3323
Bluffton College |
Bluffton OH 45817-1196|bergerd@bluffton.edu
http://cs.bluffton.edu/~berger/
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From: "Ellis, GFR, George, Prof." <ellis@maths.uct.ac.za>
Subject: Re: [METAVIEWS] Metaviews 157: Rolston Redux: In Defense of
just to say how fascinating this document [Metaviews 157. 11/28/99:
Ben Geller] is as a clear statement of unshakable faith in an
unprovable metatheory. Its main interest is in the wishful thinking
that permeates it and the lack of understanding of the
non-reducibility of emergent levels of order. Thus for example
> [DNA's] "information" is really an abstraction for "molecules
> that faithfully replicate."
This is the usual reductionist trick: the claim that's all there is
to it, there is nothing more than this! Does Geller really not
understand how, quite apart from the fact that this information
encodes how to create a macroscopic living being, which feature in no
sense whatever is encapsulated in the phrase "molecules that
faithfully replicate", the DNA molecule encapsulates an entire
evolutionary history in its structure which cannot in any serious
sense be reduced to statements in physics and chemistry? He continues
> There is good reason to believe that mitotic cells will soon be
> produced from conditions similar to those which yielded organic
> molecules.
This is pure fantasy and/or wishful thinking - unless he knows
something the rest of us don't. Does he really not know the
complexity of a cell, with its hundreds of thousands of enzymes and
feedback loops, mitochondria, membrane, nucleus, and so on? What
process does he believe will do this? He continues
> there is also no reason to assume that biology is not reducible
> to chemistry and physics (that is, if given enough time and
> effort it could be done).
yes indeed there is - the very notion of biological information
cannot be reduced to physics nor chemistry. It is a different
category of classification, structure, and understanding that is
involved. Physics cannot comprehend these structures. They may be
partially explainable by physics, but that is an entirely different
matter. To put it simply: Campbell's splendid text on Biology will
never ever be supplanted by a physics text!
He continues, as he admits, into an even more ambitious area - on the
basis of a series of `just so' stories with no serious scientific or
philosophical support. Thus
> the only good is that which selection leads us to view as good, all
> the while maintaining the currently selected good (however
> self-deluding) in their own lives
He cannot prove this - it is a statement of what he would like to be
true. The most extraordinary part of his document is the
breathtakingly arrogant assumption that underlies his dismissive
statements:
> Martin Luther King, Jr. and Gandhi sought fame, power and a
> greater probability that their offspring could live reproductive
> lives, all the while deluding themselves into believing that they
> were serving a larger good.
No wonder scientific reductionism has won such a bad name for itself!
I suppose one has to partly allow for the exuberance of inexperienced
youth, but it is astonishing that anyone can have the confidence to
so naively dismiss the lives and works of some of the greatest men
who have lived this century. It is quite clear that Ben Geller has
not undertaken any serious moral agonising himself, but he should at
least read a book like `Martin Luther King Jr: The Making of a Mind',
by Ansbro, before presuming to make this kind of judgement on the
motivation underlying King's life.
> However untenable these explanations are to some, the fact remains
> that there is evidence supporting all of them, and to dismiss this
> evidence out of a vague, undefined sense of discomfort is an
> unfortunate mistake.
Deliver the goods, Mr Geller: provide the solid evidence you claim
exists that Ghandi and Luther King were deluded when they believed
they were serving a greater good; and give some supporting evidence -
any at all - that their behaviour was intended to provide `a greater
probability that their offspring could live reproductive lives'. You
are making moral statements about the behaviour of two individuals.
What is the evidence for these statements?
> I realize that what one is in danger of doing is fitting the
> phenomena to the theory, rather than formulating a theory that
> fits the data. If one assumes that Darwinian evolution will
> account for all phenomena, then it is likely that one could devise
> a theory to explain any action, moral or otherwise.
Precisely. Most are at the level of `just so stories' that are also
able to explain anything. Their testability is minimal.
> Perhaps there is no numerical evidence (how exactly would one go
> about conducting such a study?), but no theory that speculates as
> to the causes of morality is going to be universally verifiable in
> the sense of the rigorous scientific method.
Exactly. It is the underlying philosophical stance that dominates in
these `explanations'.
> At some point, one must conclude that a threshold has been
> reached, and that the theory is valid on a larger scale than is
> specifically warranted by the data.
In other words we move from evidence-supported theory to
philosophically-supported faith. Geller's evolutionary-based faith is
one possible view, supported to some degree by evidence. There are
other viable philosophical schemes that take the normative nature of
morality much more seriously, and are at least as well supported by
evidence. His whole thesis is very thin in this area. But then he has
dismissed the religious possibility in a few passing words -
presumably that option does not fit his pre-chosen philosophical
assumptions, which shape the faith he has adopted.
George F R Ellis
Mathematics Department, University of Cape Town
Rondebosch 7700, Cape Town, South Africa
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