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A Review of Russell Stannard's "The God Experiment"

Metanexus:Views 2001.10.03 3664 words

When we here at Metanexus talk about the nexus of science and religion, what exactly are we talking about? The connection, the joining, or the fastening of science and religion are all possible interpretations of the term "nexus" in this regard, with each interpretation positing a different level of engagement. But what do we actually mean?

Obviously, the true meeting place of science and religion as human phenomena lies within each and every human being. That would imply that there are over 6 billion ways to understand "the science-religion nexus", including the view that science and religion, like church and state, should be kept apart, not simply for the sake of science, but also for the sake of religion.

Today's columnist, Jeff Dahms, MD, is an Australian independent scholar living in New York. He is also a physician/surgeon and research scientist associated with Sydney University's teaching hospitals and who works intermittently in primary care in the developing countries of Asia and the Americas. For the last two years he has worked on the design of what will become the first international health information utility, an internet service that will provide doctors and patients in the developed world, as well as field workers in the developing world, with the up to the minute, complete, and accurate decision making information about all major health issues. His scientific interests are in mind/brain evolution and the philosophy of science, particularly in the fundamental areas of physics and biology, and in relational areas such as the science religion discussion.

And what makes today's sally forth into the science religion discussion so interesting, is that Dr. Dahms' posits that it is, in fact, in the best interests of both science and religion that they remain unencumbered with one another. It is a viewpoint that he brings to bear in his review of Russell Stannard's book 'The God Experiment - Can Science Prove the Existence of God?'(ISBN: 1587680076; Publisher: Hidden Spring; 2000). And Metanexus welcomes your viewpoint on the subject, so please go to the website , and append your comments with a click of the comment button!

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Subject: Russell Stannard's 'The God Experiment - Can Science Prove the Existence of God?'
From: Jeff Dahms Email: <jwdahms@wisdoc.net>

The Mccollough Sons of Thunder gospel brass band were in full flight in Harlem's 125th St United House of Prayer for the People. Along with everyone else I applauded wildly and swayed and stomped my feet in unison - and thought of Russell Stannard. His latest book, 'The God Experiment' has glowing reviews on the dust cover. They locate it as a landmark in the increasingly crowded, even fashionable, intellectual arena of the science religion dialogue. In the jubilant, resonating church I felt perfectly at home. I find the religious impulse supremely worthy and humanly defining and precious in my own life though my own metaphysic is that of an enthusiastic non-theist, a scientist and committed naturalist. Yet, while reading Russell Stannard's book, I felt completely akilter, though I should say at the outset that some of my difficulty with the book is generic and not specific to Stannard. Given that, the following comments are meant gently, as coming from a supporter of the worth of the religious impulse but also as coming from someone who feels that much of the field is mistakenly construed and serving neither the good purposes of science or religion.

The most fundamental issue in this regard is whether science and religion are the kinds of cognitive activities that can be said to interact in any way at all. In common with many who write in the field, Stannard takes this interaction as given. My own view, which I'll simply state here, is somewhat akin to Steven Gould's - science and religion are 'non overlapping magisteria' occupying different branches in our cognitive evolution. They are part of a number of distinct and discrete human cognitive domains which neither interact with one another nor translate one to another. The science religion discussion might profitably be part of a much larger question about the nature of these domains.

Russell Stannard with his command of science and knowledge of theology can very ably speak from both platforms. He lays out most of the questions as they are currently being construed by many writers in the field. One gets the sense of an honest man willing to pursue the issues without avoiding any of the discomfort to be found in difficult areas.

Idiosyncratic science and religion

Writers in this field often have idiosyncratic views of both science and their particular religion, melding them in a kind of personal testament. Stannard's book is explicitly like this.

His is a view of science that allows for supernatural causality - miracles. He would like to limit this to special occasions like the resurrection as found in the Anglican Christian tradition, but he also allows for miraculous healing - supernatural intervention in the causal order. This necessarily locates his scientific view within that small subset of scientists who would allow for supernatural explanation in science. Whilst Stannard would limit supernatural explanation to the above specific areas, once it is introduced there is no necessary restriction in extending it to other areas. One can then, for example, hypothesize local creation miracles as the intelligent design advocates have done - albeit obliquely. But miraculous explanation is either in or out of science; there is no middle ground.

From his religious viewpoint, Stannard would like to rule out many biblical accounts of the miraculous that are dear to the hearts of most members of his tradition. The result, whilst it might be a 'fit' for Stannard, is likely to be unsatisfying both to scientists at large and to mainstream members of his tradition. For the reader, the problem is what to make of the potential science compatibility of, say, the broader views held by Stannard's Christian denomination. This is not so much an error on his part, as a problem generic to the whole undertaking, wherein the common approach is 'This is my special view of science; this is my particular take on my religious tradition; here is how they intersect.'

Russell Stannard is a deeply committed Christian, and of course the book is written from the perspective of the committed. Stannard is perfectly forthright about this and, at times, the book feels like a mix of philosophical analysis and Sunday sermonizing. We are given a tour of the science religion intersections or overlap areas as well as many examples of the way in which issues of interaction or conflict are handled there - a tour of the arguments and the resolutions that Russell Stannard himself finds attractive. Thus, he frequently ends a chapter with a summary like, 'Some will not find this approach or these arguments convincing but I do.' Stannard is right. A reader without Stannard's predisposing views is likely to find many of the arguments unconvincing and the language specific only to a particular religious community. Obviously, strong psychological biases deeply predispose cognitive evaluation of data and argument in any arena, from alien abductions to Florida electoral processes. Unfortunately, the only revelation in the end is often simply that the writer is deeply committed to those biases. Again this is a perennial issue in the science/religion arena, so what is my particular objection?

Well, the truth of a statement then comes to depend upon who is the intended reader. Language like 'God wanted to get across to us something of his splendor and majesty' to an outsider is incomprehensibly anthropomorphic. Very likely a member of the same faith will read along contentedly and feel strongly reassured. The problem, if the book is also addressed to the sympathetic 'outsider,' is that the book's arguments feel more like illustrations in a sermon to the faithful than arguments meant to carry some sway in the broader culture.

The prayer experiment

Stannard's overarching view is that science and religion have very much in common. Science is a little more experimentally ambiguous, tentative and broadly inferential than we are commonly led to think, and theology is likewise more empirically approachable. Science and religion, he believes, have quite similar methodologies; they make continual progress over time; they share insights which are mutually beneficial, they even cross fertilize each other's ideas.

For this reason, he devotes his opening chapter to a major experimental realization of this view. This itself illustrates the deep dilemmas just beneath the surface of this kind of melding of science and religion that are easier to gloss over in the more abstract discussions.

The chapter describes a current multi-center trial of the efficacy of prayer in enhancing the surgical outcome for 600 coronary artery surgery patients, results due in 2002. There is a substantial body of reporting now in the literature of studies like this, though not on this scale. The implicit message of this and related studies is, 'We are just out there doing the science like any other regular scientists and letting the chips fall where they may.'

This is a large and expensive study, and obviously of serious intent, at least in terms of the effort and monies invested. It is centered at the New England Deaconess Hospital at Boston. Stannard is a trustee of the foundation funding the study, and it is illustrative of his central thesis -
the exploration of the extent to which theology can be regarded as a science.

But something very different to normal science is going on here, and I do not just mean the investigation of a supernatural effect. At first glance, it looks like a large scale experiment in an area where the preliminary work suggests something interesting might be happening. Something interesting, of course, would be a gross understatement, since what is being suggested is the reproducible measurement of supernatural phenomena. It is not just a routine study, like the many thousands of others which map psychosomatic functions such as 'How having a positive outlook, a strong set of personal beliefs or going to church, etc., can improve medical outcomes.' He is explicit - the study aims to specify a supernatural outcome. Fundamental issues underlie this experiment and reflect on the whole field of the current science/religion debate. They are worthy of detailed analysis and will be considered elsewhere in Metanexus.

Theology progresses just like science.

The following example is characteristic of the way many issues are considered in the book. Stannard argues that there is genuine progress in theology just as in science - that changes in the understanding of God represent real progress, just like in science, and are not simply occasions of 'people recreating God in their own image.' In other words, this is the argument at hand: that there is a ladder of progress in the understanding of God in Judaeo/Christian history, where God uses the culture of the day to incrementally reveal some aspect of himself.

Stannard's basis for this view is that were it otherwise only forgiving people would think of god as forgiving and the rich would think of him as powerful and so on. Since he doesn't think this is the case, God must be directing the process, and we are discovering God directly, independent of our personal biases. He claims that God uses historical circumstance to reveal his characteristics. E.g. Stannard quotes from the perspective of the rich Isaiah in the king's court in the old testament of the bible.

The thesis Stannard advances implies that the most recent theology is the most evolved. Even people in the same religious denomination have widely varying God notions and certainly between religions there are vast differences. Consider the current moves in some quarters of Christianity to feminize a traditional male God. Is this the latest evolutionary development with God using the rise of feminism to reveal her female side? What of other Christian traditions and other religions that will have no part of it? Are they simply wrong? What of historical Christian perspectives, the crusades, the inquisition, slavery? People of the time thought they were carrying out the will of God; thought they had the most up to date revealed understanding of their deity.

How is one meant to decide something like this when every religious group or individual on the planet can argue thus? It would seem extraordinary to select out one historical strand, for example, Christianity, as the one religion that maps the reality of God, and then to define changes within this particular religion as progress. For what then can be said to be happening within theological perspectives other than one's chosen own? Moreover, the "progress" within, between, and amongst religions and theological perspectives is such as to appear totally contradictory. To any one but the totally committed believer there is a transparently obvious explanation; namely, that God or gods are continuously being constructed completely by the individual or culture. One may have personal preferences but no external measure can decide between them.

Proposing that theology progresses just like science is an enormous epistemological claim. Moreover, such commentary like Stannard's doesn't have the feel of an argument. It leaves the reader wondering whether this text is simply intended only for the committed who really need hear no argument. Standing in a pulpit announces one is delivering a sermon. Writing a book such as this suggests that something different is going on, something more like open inquiry. Russell Stannard never suggests anything neutral about his own point of view, but he would imply that one should consider his arguments on their merits.

Theology and science are actually close kin

Stannard's broadest thesis is that science and theology are actually close kin. He feels that they both share the same general difficulties in developing hypotheses from a broad sweep of data, that the development of their models/ideas have close parallels, and even that they cross fertilize each other's ideas. It is particularly in this territory that the reader gets the impression that the book is written for the easy sweeping vision of the committed.

Consider the examples Stannard uses.

The theological view at the time of Saint Augustine was that God is timeless. Augustine therefore concluded there was no time before the creation. Stannard suggests this prefigures relativity, big bang cosmology, and so on. He also suggests that since Niels Bohr is known to have read Kierkegaard, this may have influenced Bohr's interpretation of early quantum mechanics. The fact that theology has a vision in which God is both everywhere and also local leads to or parallels the wave/particle electron model. It's an enormous reach to think of science and theology being in the same harness based on tenuous examples like these. Furthermore, Stannard reminds us that many scientists historically have also been religious believers. But why would this count as evidence for the kinship of science and religion? Almost by definition scientists reflect the dominant influences of the culture of their time. E.g. They often reflect the ethical or political views of their time.

Stannard suggests that the need to weigh up the evidence from many sources is a comparable activity in both science and religion. Theory in fields like cosmology certainly depends on many experimental and theoretical underpinnings. Its strength comes from the way many widely different elements dovetail exquisitely. But this is not simply viewing a loose assembly of ideas, like viewing a collage from a distance and asking what it suggests. Many supporting elements must tightly lock together to make a theory, and a single significant element that doesn't fall into place is a serious problem for that theory. It is often the only clue that we have to go back and start all over again.

Consider the state cosmology would be in if, say, the background radiation had failed to turn up in the extremely narrow temperature range predicted, and with just the right degree of micro fluctuation, to allow for the development of galaxies. It is failures of subtle contributing elements like this which often tell scientists they have to go back to their drawing boards and start over with a totally new theory. E.g. A universe of four forces may soon have a fifth as a consequence of recent very subtle cosmic expansion measurements. Theology does not seem to even remotely parallel such an activity. It is far too elastic -some would argue infinitely elastic- to have anything like the requisite sensitivity to operate like the scientific theories Stannard mentions.

The mapping of theology on cosmology is emblematic of the problem. Back in the fifties when big bang theory was competing with steady state/continuous creation, no one in the religious community was placing their bets. No one committed themselves to positions in advance, such as 'Our theology, our religious vision, depends on the outcome of these competing scientific theories. If big bang theory goes down, so does the whole underpinning of our theology.' And yet, with big bang theory currently in the ascendant, we have a spate of books showing how that particular theory is consistent with and supports particular theologies. If steady state was now the rage, however, we'd no doubt have the same spate of books showing how it was consistent with the same theology. This is elasticity on a scale that science couldn't countenance. In science, there is no prize if you're not actually in the game.

Science religion interaction and some difficulties

Stannard's religion would seem to lie somewhere in the mainstream. It is much less adventurous than that of some theologians who flirt with philosophic naturalism or a post modernist theology in which 'truth/knowledge is all of a kind, equally arbitrary, socially constructed and so on.' Thus, he takes the interaction issues square on without flinching. He is, in the end, a philosophic dualist in the Cartesian tradition and realizes the difficulties of this philosophically unfashionable position. Nonetheless, he argues that God probably interacts with the world in a way parallel to whatever way minds interact with brains.

This is odd for one whose position is that theology is much like science. Arguing by very loose analogy to a posited relationship for which one in turn has no explanation looks nothing like science. This is meaningless except as a way of simply asserting that "I don't understand this but I believe it." He furthermore accepts a traditional 'God of the gaps' argument in which it is suggested that the constants of physics were set up by God. (Some of them have an extremely narrow possible range which allows for the development of complexity in the universe and eventually maybe something like us). Stannard feels that theoretical progress in accounting for the value of these constants has been slow and may fail - though some current string/gravitation theorists might strongly disagree. The perennial risk in relying on 'gaps' arguments, even long standing ones, is that they may be filled, and the history of all of these positions is ignominious serial retreat.

Other issues

Stannard seems somewhat discomforted by the proliferation of miracles in the Christian traditions and is keen to pare them down to the resurrection of Christ and miracles of healing. He rejects the wilder explanations of these - the universe finely tuned from the very outset to naturally produce such miracles or the subtle intervention in quantum indeterminacy - in favor of 'God just intervenes.' The laws of physics are not broken, they are nested in a higher law, 'the law of love,' much like Newtonian Physics is nested in the current Standard model in physics. Stannard understands that some readers will have difficulty with such mixed language, and he is right. It is a theological statement even though formatted with a few scientific notions and is incomprehensible to a scientist.

'Original sin', for example, is roughly equivalent to the downside of our genetic predisposition which can be transcended by the independent power of the mind. The problem is that if you grant genetic determinism this much power over the mind in the first place, then the assumed over-riding by the mind is suspect. The behaviours we approve of can just as reasonably be considered genetically determined. The outcome is then a toss of the genetic coin, so whence virtue?

Stannard also sees the four dimensional space time block of relativity theory as supporting the theological notion of God outside time. A concomitant problem is that if God creates/relates to the universe 'en block', presumably it is that much harder to disengage God from responsibility for suffering and evil. And the suffering of humanity and animals, he finds a difficult call.

His explanations for said suffering go something like this:

* some suffering is useful * animals may not suffer as much as they seem to * human suffering is actually God suffering * in the end there is heavenly reward to make up for it and no suffering goes on forever. (I suspect given the choice, those suffering in extremis would trade eternal 'pie in the sky at a later date' for immediate release)

and his explanations even seem to leave Stannard with considerable angst.

Stannard also has some unusual scientific views that might invite comment like:

* genes for a stronger sex drive predispose some men to rape * the working class and presumably less intelligent are out-breeding the upper class who are typically more intelligent, and this is driving the average intelligence of the species to the dogs * the Heisenberg uncertainty principle is a consequence of observer interaction altering a property in the process of measurement and is not an intrinsic feature of these paired properties.

But these must perhaps be better addressed at some other time.

Concluding Remark

Stannard's account is honest and very able, coming from someone enormously experienced in both theology and science. It is this honesty which points up the problems in this whole approach and the above criticisms are, thus, perhaps more generic than specific to Stannard's book.

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